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The Daily Stoic
Ryan Holiday discussed rereading this novel about organized crime infiltrating boxing. He reflected on how he previously misremembered the book's influence on his decision to leave American Apparel and become a writer, highlighting how we often construct narratives that may not fully align with reality.
tell me about the harder they fall by bud Schulberg that book tell you something pretty important oh yeah and if you want to think of it then I will no no it's one of my favorite novels I so he has tw...
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Episode: Ryan And Jordan Harbinger Live At The West
Ryan Holiday discussed rereading this novel about organized crime infiltrating boxing. He reflected on how he previously misremembered the book's influence on his decision to leave American Apparel and become a writer, highlighting how we often construct narratives that may not fully align with reality.
tell me about the harder they fall by bud Schulberg that book tell you something pretty important oh yeah and if you want to think of it then I will no no it's one of my favorite novels I so he has two novels here's a novel called What Makes Sammy Run which I like a little bit more and then the the harder they fall is a sort of boxing novel that he wrote I read it when I was but it was funny so I reread that book you kind of had you you should always be very suspicious of the stories you tell yourself in your head because you're pretty good liar but I read I would have I thought that I read the harder they fall which is a novel about a corrupt boxing like organized crime infiltrating boxing and then it's like public relations guy who's like the main character and he sort of corrupted by him then he walks away from it if you would ask me my own my own story earlier this year I would have told you I read that book and that's why I left American apparel to become a writer and I reread it this year and I pulled up Amazon to see when I bought it and I worked in American girl for like five years or four more years or something like I we think that change happens in these sort of epiphanies or wake up calls and it's almost always a lot more gradual than there's a long time to yes and and I didn't leave for the same reasons that the character and the novel was reading which is that we're really good at telling ourselves that one our work is really important and then he has this line in the book he says you know I dilute I he says I I told myself the lie that you can deal and fill and not become the thing you touch and with American apparel quite literally the case no but you tell yourself like oh like thinking about all the people that you know work in this administration and that administration people that work in industries that they know or evil or corrupting or strength and they're like well I'm one of the good guys or I'm steering it in the right direction or I'm the adults in the room we are really good at lines for ourselves there's an up and some clear line it says it's very hard to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on not understanding it and so very often you have you deep down know what's true but then you have whatever your salary is that many reasons to not take it seriously or make the make the step that you obviously know you need to make