That One Should Disdain Hardships The Teachings of a Roman Stoic

he's not saying that we should avoid them, we should run away from them, he's saying that we should look at them with a sneer or a smirk in the sense that we're better than them, that we're challenged by them but we don't shy away from this challenge.

if you accomplish something good with hard work the work passes quickly but the good endures but then he says though if you do something shameful in pursuit of pleasure you take the easy way out, the result doesn't last long but the shame endures and most of all he said we earn respect of others earning the respect of ourselves by disdaining hardships, by conquering them, by doing the hard work

So this book was translated relatively recently and I enjoyed it. This is Musoneus Rufus, whose epictetus is teacher and it's called that should that one should disdain hardships and I read this in March last year.

there's a wonderful translation of Musoneus that I would recommend called that one should disdain hardship we carry it at the painted porch.

we carry an addition of Musonius Rufus that I would recommend called that one should disdain hardships and we carry it at the painted porch all linked to that in today's show notes as well.

there is um a couple let me see there's an interesting book uh by mousse that that was published of musonius rufus recently and it's called that um that one should disdain hardships the teachings of a roman stoic and it's this little interesting book i read it so every time i read a book and then i do the notes i wrote i write down when i read it so i read this in march uh of 2020 um but uh he he sort of has some some really good lectures on stoicism he sort of he does he is trying to define um the stuff and and musonius rufus was epic teetus's teacher so you might like that book um uh which i was not really in print before and then the other tricky one um he's a character in lines of the stoics i talk about arius didamous um and he was the advisor to the emperor octavian slash Augustus um he wrote of there's this sort of collection of his writings called uh i think stoic ethics by arius didamous and and it's probably the least practical but it it does feel the most sort of definitive like he's really trying to he's like defining terms and and it's it's not super i won't say either of these books are like riveting self-help but but it might go to your point about like sort of really trying to get to to some first principles