Defectors The Rise of the Latino Far Right and What It Means for America

She's got a book, Defectors, The Rise of the Latino Far Right and What It Means for America.

And so part of what actually drove me to write this book is precisely what you just laid out.

The name of the book is Defectors, the rise of the Latino far right and what it means for America.

Special guest Paola Ramos joins to discuss her new book, Defectors: The Rise of the Latino Far Right and What It Means for America, delving into the shifting political leanings of Latino voters and how Vance's controversial comments on immigration resonate in this context.

But when I read this, I would you know, why would with such with Trump rhetoric of the southern border of migrants, why would the Latino population support him in such a way?

I think the harder part is really thinking about our story and the sort of cultural forces that that are among us. And I'm talking about understanding the racial baggage that we carry from Latin America.

You know, I was ignorant to so many things in this book and that's why it's such a great read. And man, there's some really personal stories that are fascinating.

And that entails deputizing local police forces going around people's homes. And there's over 10 million U.S. citizens in this country that live in mixed status families.

Defectors, how the illicit flight of Soviet citizens built the borders of the Cold War world.

Well, thank you very much. So, defection is an unusual thing. When we typically think about migrants fleeing, we think of the way that people are prevented from entering countries by borders.

But defectors were people who fled illegally, who fled countries that had exit controls, essentially criminalizing their exit.

And so, defection was jointly produced by this criminalization of exit and this encouragement of escape.

And the book looks at defection around the world, not only in border zones along states, but also on the high seas, around embassies, aboard airplanes.